we take cities like this and put money back into the economy. host: i think we got the point. let's get an answer from representative engel. guest: first of all, thanks for the working-class connection. my dad was a welder. he was an iron worker. a very proud member of the ironworkers union. i grew up with those kinds of feelings, caring about working people in this country. the statistics seem to be going in that direction with unemployment going down and joblessness going down as well. you make a very good point. the problem with our participation is that you really do not know whether you are going to go out of the frying pan into the fire. there are reports, for instance, that the administration was struggling, months ago, overworked -- over whether we should intervene in syria and support the rebels. again, the two schools of thought are, you want to support the rebels because assad, let's say, is not a good person. you would hope that, while -- when he is overthrown, as likely seems the case, the united states will have an influence in the new government if we are aiding